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Posted 5/21/2008 11:16:55 AM
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SF covers stupidity, but in many states insurance companies are refusing to cover DEs. The amount insurance companies pays to cover DE incidents has to be less than 1% of what they pay in stupidity (but I would bet it is WAY less than that). Obviously the bean counters rule the world....same reason we have 3800 pound M3s.  Where is the logic there?

Jeron (5/21/2008)
I dont get the Dodge Ram one.  I searched and came up with park brake and/or Transmission Parking problems.  Is that what you were referring to?

http://forums.automotive.com/70/4574/trucks/2004-dodge-ram-fuel-injector-problems/index.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071004073919AAPSBWB

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Posted 5/22/2008 2:41:10 AM


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I see about 2-3 claims a week on Dodge Diesel trucks and have been seeing this for over a year now,
maybe two to three years? Initially we were paying these, thinking that they were due to contamination
of fuel, but as they started rolling in more and more, we have realized it's a " Dodge thang". No Fords
with this issue... no Chevrolets..

They have many issues across most of their late model trucks, even up through the 2007 models.
I have a file with a 2007 truck on my desk with 28K miles...
Currently, I most commonly see 2005 models with anything from 46-116K... I can't tell you how many
owners I have had to tell that their damaged fuel system is due to maintenance issue/design issue
that Dodge will not accept. Many of the owners of these are still paying their note on a 2005
vehicle and they have 45-80K miles and their truck either quits running (or the engine has an internal
failure) and then they are looking at a repair bill of 8-13K... Dodge charges $289 for each fuel injector
( x 10!) lift pump for 2-3K, fuel pumps, labor to drop the tank etc...

There are issues with the water in fuel light not coming on.
There is a recall for water in fuel lights to be updated.
The recall installs a secret check code to notify the dealer if the water in fuel light has been tripped.
Many of these trucks have some sort of algae/gunky substance that grows in the fuel system and
then it clogs the injectors.... 8-11K.
Many of them have excessive DIRT particles in the fuel system... these can clog an injector and make it
run lean causing a cylinder to run hot and then kaboom. New Engine =- 18K from the dealer. I have
seen dealer estimates as high as 27K..... ridiculous.

I am sure a fair amount of owners here in Texas are trying to save money using Farm Fuel, which is
sure to lead to a failure due to all the contaminants in those sorts of fuel wells, when the vehicle
fuel system can't even deal with good quality fuel.


There are service bulletins from Dodge about advising owners to only use low sulphur fuel (however now, only
ULTRA low suplhur fuel is available)...

It's fairly clear Dodge doesn't know what's going on by all the different service bulletins...All I know is
their parts department profit margins are probably tracking along with those of Exxon.

Fords and Chevy's may have their own issues, but I am sure that they are not this....
My recommendation to anyone with one of these trucks or considering it is to RUN FAR RUN FAST.



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