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| I am building a house and am contemplating doing the wiring for the video and computers, etc on my own. I am searching for Cat6 bulk cables (500 or 1000 ft boxes) and RG6 wires. I would probably prefer a structured wire that combines 2 of each. I will also consider a structured wire that adds 2 fiber optic cables (not needed but maybe future proofing- but if I build it right adding wires will be easy). I have seen prices of around $115 for 1000' of Cat5e, $165 for 1000' of Cat6 wiring, and $560 for 500 ft of 2 Cat6, 2 RG6 and 2 fiber optics cables. Any local places that are close to those prices or any online places that are cheaper?
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ok so do you want the cat 5 or the cat 6??? we use all the wiring you specified at work and can check the prices and distributor. might try graingers i think that might be where we got it at but not sure.
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| I wired my house during construction. I bought my cable at Home Depot and Fry's. I think it was $50 for 1000ft of CAT5e and $59 for 500ft of RG6-U. I ran two CAT5e and one RG6 to each interior wall of each room. I used one CAT5 for network and one for phone. Of course each CAT5 is good for two network connections or 4 phone lines. You are going to need to determine one or two distribution junctions to centralize your cables. Of course you will need a ladder, cordless drill, paddle bits, maybe an extension rod for the bits, wall boxes, hammer, nails, zip ties, patience and time.
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Fry's ad today has 500ft Cat6 with a crimper and plugs for $69.99. Probably a crappy crimper but you dont need a crimper unless you plan to make your own patch cables.
Jeron
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| Just did this in my new home construction on June 26th... lemmie go copy the details... REXEL data products (several stores in Plano, Dallas, etc) has got almost everything you need. CAT6 is hard to find at places like Fry's. They also have structured cabling, but this gets expensive really fast. I ended up running out of CAT6 (only bought a 1000' roll, doh) and got some CAT5e at Frys, as well as more RG6 and more speaker wire. When asked, you do NOT need "plenum rated" cabling. This is a low-smoke jacket around CAT6/RG6/etc cable, made for runs cabling placed inside ventilation plenums (commercial buildings). Non-plenum rated saves you about 40% in costs. REXEL was very competitive when you ordered the right stuff, and had better materials than Fry's. The big REXEL store on Spring Valley had a huuuuge warehouse/showroom. We did at least 3 CAT6 and 2 RG6 drops in each room, with 4 speaker wires and a drop for a room-audio controller. Everything terminated into a Leviton termination cabinet in our "computer room" closet (which will have ventillation fan and A/C vent), which we also bought from REXEL. Hinged cover. I think it was about $85 + $60 for the cover. All in all I think we used about $600 worth of cable, conduit and supplies. 1000' of CAT6 was used and we got into another 1000' of CAT5e, we used all ~400' of Hanchey's donated CAT5+4speaker-wire roll + 750 more feet of speaker wire, at least 900' of RG6 coax, 80' of 3/4" conduit and 40' of 1/2" flex conduit, and 40 single or double ganged junction boxes. The media cabinet was jam packed with cables - it'll be tight in there and I may need to get another cabinet. I bought the biggest one they sell (42" tall x 16" wide). Jason and Bryan added 15 garage conduit drops and boxes for future electrical additions (builder only has 2 outlets in the garage?!). Leviton Structured Wiring Center Equipment : http://www.levitonproducts.com/catal...FzNAo d13StRQ
Gonna go buy a modular enclosure for now: http://www.hometech.com/techwire/leviton.html
Here's a typical installation with a Leviton cabinet:    
Above the enclosure I have multiple conduit runs into the attic, and from there runs into to each room and garage. Coax, Ethernet, speaker wires. I also ran a 110V source into this enclsure for a modular power drop in. They make special sealed/surge supressed 110V outlets that snap into the bottom of the Leviton enclosure and keep noise away from the low voltage stuff inside: Here was our 15 person crew at work:   
more pics from mega wiring day: http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/gallery/1410608/29/77986457 You need: more materials than you ever planned for, a person that just makes printed wiring labels, a person mapping out all the drops, lots of attic runners, several ladders and cordless drills, a drilling crew, etc. We worked for 12 hours with 5-15 people at a time and haven't even terminated a single wire yet... 
Terry Fair - www.vorshlag.com & www.ast-usa.com
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| So what I hear you saying is...you are offering your services yo help. Thanks! Just kidding...thanks for the write-up.
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Fair! (10/2/2006)
We worked for 12 hours with 5-15 people at a time and haven't even terminated a single wire yet... I hope there was beer involved.  Mine took 2 days, working alone, for 2000ft Cat5e and 1000ft RG6.
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Jeron (10/3/2006)I hope there was beer involved. Mine took 2 days, working alone, for 2000ft Cat5e and 1000ft RG6. Yea, we over-wired the house, for sure. The speaker wiring was massively overdone... probably only hook up half what we ran, but you never know. 7.1 capability but I'll be lucky if it gets 5.1...  Any and every room got wired to hell, such as: Garage has multiple RG6 and CAT6 drops, plus lots of electrical conduit/box drops for future electrical work to be added after we move in. I had the electrician add an extra circuit breaker box and ran big conduits into that and the main box from the attic. Builder wanted $150 per added garage outlet! "It has to be those expensive GFI outlets."... that cost $11 each. Jeez. He wanted $200 per extra recessed "can" light also, that are $23/each in parts. We added conduit behiund the drywall for 15 add'l garage and 6 dining room outlet drops for about $40 in materials. Wiring thru conduit is easy. Adding wires down existing drywalled walls over 8' in height is a huge PITA, without pre-run conduit. Any outside wall that has CAT6/RG6 drops were conduited as well, for easier change-out to future cabling standards... its all little extra work up front but a huge potential savings later. Now the tricky part i | | | |